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timeFebruary 21, 2008, 10:32 AM #0
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k.. have everything taken off except for coolant line..

i took the thermostat hosing off and drained out the coolant that goes across the line to the radiator..

just need the best idea of how to drain the coolant out of the manifold before i pop this ***** off. i'm excited!!

.. i'm on a laptop and literally next to my car.
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timeFebruary 21, 2008, 10:50 AM #1
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I threw some kitty litter on the floor when i yanked my intake and heads off....your gonna have some coolant spill so just do it cheesy
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timeFebruary 21, 2008, 11:04 AM #2
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alrite, goin for it
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timeFebruary 21, 2008, 11:22 AM #3
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the way i did it, and also did it to my friends car, was unplug the lower radiator hose and let it drain from there into a bucket. when i took the manifold off, there was very little that spilled.
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timeFebruary 21, 2008, 11:53 AM #4
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Yeah... god dude the manifold sizes are so different. god.. can't wait. but. where am i putting the new coolant line? the line i see goes down into the tranny..

wheres the coolant return line??
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timeFebruary 21, 2008, 11:56 AM #5
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it doesnt go into the trans. it goes to a bracket behind the drivers side head, and then from there it turns into a rubber hose that goes into the heater core. i think the metal tube you are talking about is the EGR tube, and that one goes into the manifold

look at this pic of my car, its the shiney black tube with the ford inventory stickers on it:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a267/ender03/Re-sized%20Photos/Picture061.jpg
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well ok.. ok.

but why do you have to change that.. i don't understand why you have to change it. is their a problem with keeping that line on there.
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timeFebruary 21, 2008, 12:02 PM #7
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well ok.. ok.

but why do you have to change that.. i don't understand why you have to change it. is their a problem with keeping that line on there.

The PI Intake is much deeper so that line needs to be routed around the intake runners.
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timeFebruary 21, 2008, 12:07 PM #8
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well ok.. ok.

but why do you have to change that.. i don't understand why you have to change it. is their a problem with keeping that line on there.

The PI Intake is much deeper so that line needs to be routed around the intake runners.

yup, what he said. the NPI line runs directly under the intake manifold. with bolt of them side by side, you can see how the PI one is much deeper than the NPI one (and thus will go deeper into the cylinder valley). the NPI coolant tube would stop it from going any deeper than the NPI manifold, so the coolant tube needs to be routed around the intake manifold rather than directly under
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timeFebruary 21, 2008, 12:11 PM #9
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well ok... heres the next quesiton. what the best way to pull that line off without taking the water pump off. if thats even possible...
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well ok... heres the next quesiton. what the best way to pull that line off without taking the water pump off. if thats even possible...

Since you have  a 98 you might not need to swap nipples on the water pump so that may save you some time. Did you buy a New PI nipple?
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timeFebruary 21, 2008, 12:29 PM #11
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no i sure didn't... i'm getting very aggrivated very fast.. but trying to stay calm.

were taking off the bracket for the metal line right now. and were going to try a hammer and crowbar meathod to get it of. otherwise i'm going to get a torch and cut it and put the new heater hose on.

trying to stay cool...
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timeFebruary 21, 2008, 12:32 PM #12
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lol, dont use a hammer. there are 2 bolts (13mm if i remember right) that hold the bracket to the back of the head. with patience, you get these off. the new PI return tube only uses one of those 2 bolts, so be happy you dont have to install bolt the bolts back in. if you have one of those ratcheting wrenches, they work even better. once those 2 bolts are removed, the tube just slides out from behind the water pump.
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timeFebruary 21, 2008, 12:48 PM #13
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thanks for everyone's help so far...

revi - i don't have a pi return line. aaron told me a lil while back to get 5/8s heater hose. and jr also said that would work too. so thats the meathod i'm going to do... and i just snapped one of my coolant sensors. but luckilaly one of my friends has a 96 gt i'm going to take it off of that doens't run right now...

so i was just going to use the heater hose. and reroute it..

i'm just taking it slow trying not to get pissed off...

update <-- having trouble getting that bottom bolt on the bracket for the return line. one of my friends went to the store to get a 13mm rachet wrench..
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i believe they both are not 13's... I'm pretty sure the other one is a 10..
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i wish i could remember but i cant, lmao.
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timeFebruary 21, 2008, 02:28 PM #16
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i can almost guarantee it is a 10mm...
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i know one of em is a serious PITA to get too.
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it's a 10mm... I know... because i'm looking at the bolt... 
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one was a 13 and one was a ten... i'm so excited guys... i just got the new manifold on and i'm starting to piece everything back together.  :dancing6:
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make sure you didnt scrape the rtv when slidin the intake on. also give it plenty of time to cure...ill be fixin my mistake this weekend when i do my suspension
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timeFebruary 21, 2008, 03:14 PM #21
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About how long do you think i should let it sit or cure in terms of the silicon.
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at least a few hours(1-2) i think the reason i had problems is cuase when i put the intake on it scraped the rear port RTV and didnt get a good seal. some people have fired it right up and had no leaks, some people swear it takes 8 hours. 1-2 should work well
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its done.. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just put my cai back on and i'm fully done...

i just hope that everthing sealed correctly.


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congrats man! you will enjoy the extra bit of pull up top
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well. i did a very fast test fire.. just to make sure that it fired. and i immediately killed it. turns out that their was a louder then normal whistle. i mean i don't know if its bad or not. but i'm just sayin that i immediately noticed it...

so i'm happpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppy
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mine actually got a little quieter, but i dont have a CAI, just a K/N
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I got bbk intake. 



Ok i think i just found the problem, 2 screws were just found lose on the manifold.
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the back 2 correct? lol. i left those loose at first too
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Get em tightened, then leave it be overnight. hopefully you don't have anywhere to go first thing in the morning? That way you can check it over and everything.
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or you can do like i do and have to refill the reservoir every week or so, lmao
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i got all the bolts tightened up. and did a quick test fire. and it sounded good. still a little whistle.. like a vaccume line. but i went over those like 3 or 4 times.. so i'm clueless... i didn't drive the car and it wasn't running for any longer then 3 seconds. and i only fired it 3 times.

i left my car in my friend's garage to sit until i get off work tomorrow night. then i'll try to take it out.

god damn i'm so excited..

the back 2 correct? lol. i left those loose at first too

lol yeah.. how ironic

Get em tightened, then leave it be overnight. hopefully you don't have anywhere to go first thing in the morning? That way you can check it over and everything.

i'll just wait until i get off tomorrow night jr. gives it all the time it should need to cure right??
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should be good to go
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well i'm going to drive it tonight when i get off of work. i'm so excited... guess we'll see how it holds up
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i let the RTV cure for as long as it took me to get everything put back on, then fired it up for about 5 minutes, checked for leaks, drove it down the block slowly, checked for leaks, made a right turn to the stop sign, and then redlined 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gear, checked for leaks, then hopped onto the freeway and redlined 1-4th gears. no leaks  :hammer:
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