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so i have about 3000 to spend. how would my money best be invested? a good HCI setup with a dyno tune or a supercharger. if i go with a supercharger it would be a kennebell or a vortech. as for a HCI setup i have been looking at the trickflow top end kit TFS-K514-350370B. i am still up for any suggestions you guys may have. the only down side is that i live in california so i still have to pass emissions. oh and i dont want to spray it or turbo it.
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| March 07, 2009, 07:52 PM | #1 |
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this is a hard one, if it was me I would do like some gt40s.... just so u wouldnt be on e7's and get the kenne bell... and maybe a cam if its needed.... but I dont know anything
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| March 07, 2009, 07:53 PM | #2 |
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Buy a kenne bell. I just got one a few days ago and looks/sounds/feels amazing. There is instant power all of the time. Just my .02  |
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| March 07, 2009, 08:02 PM | #3 |
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lol im thinking the kennebell would be pretty nice. plus the install a little easier. does anyone know if the TFS kit is CARB legal?
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| March 07, 2009, 08:11 PM | #4 |
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Buy an Ed Curtis H/C/I Package ( www.flowtechinduction.com) and get a dyno tune. .02 |
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| March 07, 2009, 08:20 PM | #5 |
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where do you find the package at? |
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| March 07, 2009, 08:58 PM | #6 |
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where do you find the package at? You have to call Ed and tell him your plans etc. |
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| March 07, 2009, 09:32 PM | #7 |
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oh ok... you know how much a basic 300hp type thing runs for?
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| March 08, 2009, 07:51 AM | #8 |
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Probably around $2200 I would say..but the power results are awesome.
Pay to play...
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| March 08, 2009, 07:54 AM | #9 |
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Blower. Every time.
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| March 08, 2009, 10:25 AM | #10 |
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Probably around $2200 I would say..but the power results are awesome.
Pay to play...
that aint bad but I do think it would be cooler to do the kenne bell. Arent they about the same price? |
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| March 08, 2009, 11:20 AM | #12 |
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Well I think you get more power from the s/c than u do with the h/c/i and then later you can upgrade those too right?
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| March 08, 2009, 02:02 PM | #13 |
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get yourself a solid platform to build upon. boosting the stock drivetrain is fine in minimal amounts. however, putting a nice top end on the motor allows more room to grow. also, how's your suspension, exhaust, trans, clutch, etc...
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| March 08, 2009, 03:26 PM | #14 |
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Will your stock clutch hold up to a KB? That's another added cost you have to consider. To my knowledge the KB kits come w/ Injectors and fuel pumps so that is incorporated into the price
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| March 08, 2009, 04:50 PM | #15 |
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i would do the h/c/i, and then later down the road get a blower.
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| March 08, 2009, 05:40 PM | #16 |
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I know my GT with mostly stock components except for the Intake and Paxton Novi 2000 which made 340 at the wheels and 350 TQ needed an aftermarket clutch. Stock one would not hold anything over 4,000 RPMS
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| March 08, 2009, 08:24 PM | #17 |
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I don't understand why you would do a blower on a stock car. A lot of the power you could have gotten would be lost using stock intake/heads. It makes more sense to build up your N/A motor first, then go to the blower. Just my $.02
Because it will make as much or more power and torque, with less money, virtually no loss of drivability, and a far easier install. You can always do the top end or the whole motor later. Paul. |
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| March 08, 2009, 08:28 PM | #18 |
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Plus... the price of kenne bell kit new is 4k to 5k, depending on what you get. Unless your going for a used kit, that will probably be the 1.5 litre. The easiest way to go would be the blower first... then when you get tired of it or it lets go, you will more than likley have the funds to build a stroker or a good H/C/I.
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| March 09, 2009, 10:32 AM | #19 |
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so this seems to be kind of a heated topic with everyone having their own opinions lol. its still hard tho to makeup my mind as which i wanna do. the kenne bell or the HCI. if i choose the kb i can add some apr heads and a nice cam later. but if i go with the trickflow top end kit i would have a better platform to build on later
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| March 09, 2009, 10:51 AM | #20 |
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its 3100 for the kenne bell standard blower, plus u have to buy an underdrive crank pulley and supercharger pulleys if u want more than 6psi witch are 70 dollars, then u still need the pulley remover. and injectors,maf,throttle body,fuel pump ect. the blowzilla and flowzilla are 300-600 dollars more for the blower
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| March 09, 2009, 12:46 PM | #21 |
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I have had a Kenne Bell, granted I only had the Kenne Bell 1500...torque was obnoxious but it was a heat pump. If you DO get a KB, make sure you get a meth kit with it.
In the end....I will be doing a Vortech next time.
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| March 09, 2009, 02:25 PM | #22 |
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I have had a Kenne Bell, granted I only had the Kenne Bell 1500...torque was obnoxious but it was a heat pump. If you DO get a KB, make sure you get a meth kit with it.
In the end....I will be doing a Vortech next time.
thats not what i want to hear about KB lol. I still want one... |
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| March 09, 2009, 02:53 PM | #23 |
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I have had a Kenne Bell, granted I only had the Kenne Bell 1500...torque was obnoxious but it was a heat pump. If you DO get a KB, make sure you get a meth kit with it.
In the end....I will be doing a Vortech next time.
thats not what i want to hear about KB lol. I still want one... Just get a meth kit bro...Problem solved. You'll make more power with a Vortech/Paxton blower though. If you not looking to make 500+ then a Kenne Bell is fine. I didn't dislike mine I just like the centrifugal design better. |
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| March 09, 2009, 03:14 PM | #24 |
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Just get a used S-Trim for cheap, some injectors, a MAF, a tune and call it a day. You guys overcomplicate all this crap.
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| March 09, 2009, 03:33 PM | #25 |
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Just get a used S-Trim for cheap, some injectors, a MAF, a tune and call it a day. You guys overcomplicate all this crap.
Used blowers suck mang. I have had friends buy used kits "All parts included to install" Start installing and all kinds of bolts are missing etc. If your going to invest in a supercharger, buy a new kit that comes with everything. .02 |
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| March 09, 2009, 03:41 PM | #26 |
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supercharger is nothing I would ever buy used, you just never know what problems its had or how well it was maintained and you wont have any warranty if something does go wrong w/ it.
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| March 09, 2009, 03:48 PM | #27 |
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supercharger is nothing I would ever buy used, you just never know what problems its had or how well it was maintained and you wont have any warranty if something does go wrong w/ it.
Exactly.. Unless you send the head unit back, and by then the $800 to refresh could have already paid for a new kit. |
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| March 09, 2009, 04:33 PM | #28 |
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A refresh from Vortech is not $800 unless a ton of crap is wrong with it. I know because I've done it.
The instructions (which can be downloaded from the website) include EVERY SINGLE NUT, BOLT and PART necessary for install. I bought all new nuts and bolts for my old T-Trim kit at the hardware store for cheap.
If you research what kit you're buying, and complete your due diligence, there's nothing wrong with it at all. If you buy a kit from some jackass who can't turn a wrench without consulting the manual, then you're in for trouble.
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| March 09, 2009, 05:01 PM | #29 |
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Will your stock clutch hold up to a KB? That's another added cost you have to consider. To my knowledge the KB kits come w/ Injectors and fuel pumps so that is incorporated into the price
will your tranny hold up to the additional power? |
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| March 09, 2009, 05:35 PM | #30 |
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Yeah that too
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| March 09, 2009, 06:30 PM | #31 |
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id build a bugdet 351 stroker personally, get u a budget stroker kit about 1k right there, get a deal on a block, hell do a 408 with some factory heads and i htink u would make abou tthe same power as u would with the supercharger but have more cubes to work with .02
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| March 09, 2009, 06:35 PM | #32 |
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if i were to spend it on HCI it wuld be trickflow track heat kit and a ffrp F-cam! buddy of mine made 350 rwhp and 350 rwtq off same combo! otherwise novi 2000 supercharger and be done!
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| March 09, 2009, 07:05 PM | #33 |
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I have had a Kenne Bell, granted I only had the Kenne Bell 1500...torque was obnoxious but it was a heat pump. If you DO get a KB, make sure you get a meth kit with it.
In the end....I will be doing a Vortech next time.
thats not what i want to hear about KB lol. I still want one... Just get a meth kit bro...Problem solved. You'll make more power with a Vortech/Paxton blower though. If you not looking to make 500+ then a Kenne Bell is fine. I didn't dislike mine I just like the centrifugal design better. Well it's not all about HP numbers, I mainly want the KB b/c i like the design and simplicity of install. i was thinking about running a meth kit but it's not something i'd use all the time. I'm actually looking for a used one cause new ones are stupid expensive. |
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| March 09, 2009, 07:53 PM | #34 |
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What did you pay Paul?
My buddy just had his s-trim head unit sent to vortech and with the refresh (new bearings, etc.) and shipping both ways - UPS..it came to be just under $800 all together.
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